DISINFO: FLAT EARTH
DISINFO: FLAT EARTH
There is a new disinfo theory going around lately that the Earth is Flat. Yes, you heard that right, it’s 2017 and there are people claiming that the Earth is not spherical but lies on a flat plane. Can people truly be this foolish or is this some kind of CIA Psyop to discredit the Truth Movement?
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Before we get into debunking Flerf claims, I first want to illustrate some simple facts we know about Earth using science and calculations.
Earth is appr. 4.5 Billion years old.
Circumference of Earth: 24,901 Miles/ 40,075 Kms.
Radius of Earth: 3,959 Miles/ 6371 Kms.
Distance of Earth to the Sun: 92.9 Million miles/ 149.6 million Kms.
Time it takes Earth to rotate around the sun: 365.3 days.
The Earth spins on its own axis every 23 hours 56 minutes at 1040 mph, 1675 km/h or 465 meters per second.
The Earth orbits around the sun at a speed of 67,000 mph / 108,000 km/h and travels 940 million kms during a single orbit.
70% of Earth’s surface is covered by water.
Nitrogen makes up 78% of the atmosphere, while oxygen makes up 21%. 1% Argon and Carbon Dioxide.
Gravity: 9.766 m/s2
Density: 5.515 g/cm3
Mass: 5.9737 x 1024 kg
Volume: 1.0832 x 1012 km3
http://www.solarsystemquick.com/earth.htm
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FLAT EARTH MAP MODEL
To give you a perspective of what Flat Earthers believe, here is a map of a Flat World. The white circle around the globe is a magical impenetrable Ice wall that no one can take me to because it does not exist. If you didn’t notice, the Flat Earth map looks identical to the UN (United Nations) logo.
Debunked in 10 seconds
Earth Browser (View nightime/daytime, Clouds, Radar, Earthquakes, Precipitation, and Spacecraft in LIVE time)
http://www.earthbrowser.com/
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ERIC DUBAY
Eric Dubay appears to be the Flat Earthers leader. He lives in his parents basement and makes unsubstantiated claims about the Flat Earth hypothesis every day.
Eric Dubay’s Flat Earth Society
https://www.facebook.com/eric.dubay.52
https://www.facebook.com/ericdubayfec2015/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/532783520194774/
Eric Dubay Real Flat Earther Interview
www.youtube.com/watch?v=G90A2kg1bWs
Eric Dubay
www.youtube.com/channel/UCQArDd3ybp7wm37TTmKu9Wg
Nuclear Hoax – Nukes Do Not Exist!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=sULjMjK5lCI
Eric Dubay correlates AE911 with Flat Earth. As a means to discredit those that question the official story. This tells me that Flat Earth is a Govt Psyop and Eric is working for them.
www.twitter.com/ericdubay/status/606039191147773952
Associates AE911 with Flat Earth
http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/05/architects-engineers-for-flat-earth.html
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Flat Earth Groups
https://www.facebook.com/theflatearthconspiracy?
https://www.facebook.com/groups/532783520194774/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1661866320707757/
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Flat Earth Eric Dubay’s interview by Jeff Berwick Anarchast
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xta_AKF_LsE
In this video, activist Jeff Berwick interviews Eric Dubay on the Flat Earth. Throughout the entire video, Eric admits that he has never gone around the World and has done zero experiments that prove his theory. It’s as if Dubay is too afraid to leave his parents basement to find evidence.
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DEBUNKING DUBAY
Debunking Dubay 1-7/200
http://200proofsearthisnotflat.blogspot.ca/2016/02/debunking-dubay-1-7200.html
REBUTTAL
“This blog is a direct response to Eric Dubay’s video “200 Proofs Earth is Not a Spinning Ball Videobook””
www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5i_iDyUTCg
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DEBUNKING FLAT EARTH
FLAT EARTHERS PROVE EARTH IS A SPHERE
www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-CKunawlhA
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PSYOP Flat Earth DISTRACTION Debunked! BIG FAIL! – Criticalunity.org
www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3w0NEo_hsg
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A Question for Flat Earth Theorists
www.logosapologia.org/a-question-for-flat-earth-theorists/
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How We Know the Earth is Round / Flat Earthers DEBUNKED: Exploring Science, Ep. II
www.cut2thetruth.wordpress.com/2015/05/16/why-we-know-the-earth-is-round-flat-earthers-debunked-exploring-science-ep-ii/
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Top 10 Ways to Know the Earth is Not Flat
www.smarterthanthat.com/astronomy/top-10-ways-to-know-the-earth-is-not-flat/
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FLAT EARTH ‘THEORY’ Demonstrates The Alarming Gullibility Of People Everywhere
www.cosmicconvergence.org/?p=10111
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fiveredpears (Many Flat Earth debunking videos)
https://www.youtube.com/user/fiveredpears/videos
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DEBUNKING FLAT EARTH CLAIMS
10 Absurd Claims Of Modern Flat Earth Conspiracy Theorists
www.listverse.com/2016/02/01/10-absurd-claims-of-modern-flat-earth-conspiracy-theorists/
10) Space Images Are Fake
9) ISS Videos Are Shot In A Zero-G Plane
8) Antarctica Is An Impenetrable Ice Wall
7) The Earth Has No Curvature
6) Gravity Doesn’t Exist
5) The Sun Isn’t Millions Of Miles Away
4) The Sky Is A Glass Dome
3) The Shadow Object Causes Lunar Eclipses
2) Rockets Can’t Reach Space
1) NASA Was Founded By Nazis
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CLAIM 1: “Water does not curve.”
“Since it’s a scientific fact that water always finds its level, how is it possible to bend and curve?”
Flat Earth Proof 1 – The Level
www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH6p-Ab9f9Y
REBUTTAL:
OCEANOGRAPHY and CORIOLIS:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_oceanography#Coriolis_effect
“Each successive layer of water underneath is effected further by the Coriolis effect (but the foward movement of water is less) creating an Ekman spiral” http://science.kennesaw.edu/~jdirnber/oceanography/LecuturesOceanogr/LecCurrents/LecCurrents.html
“Winds drive surface currents in the ocean, and these currents are effected by the Coriolis effect. ”
geostrophic (“Earth turning”) currents.
http://www.britannica.com/science/ocean-current/Geostrophic-currents
“On a nonrotating Earth, water would be accelerated by a horizontal pressure gradient and would flow from high to low pressure. On the rotating Earth, however, the Coriolis force deflects the motion,”
Ocean in Motion: Geostrophic Flow Background-
“A balance develops between the Coriolis force and the force arising from the horizontal water pressure gradient such that surface currents flow parallel to the contours of elevation of sea level. This current is known as geostrophic flow.”
http://oceanmotion.org/html/background/geostrophic-flow.htm
Flat Earth “water finds a level” Debunked: how water curves and sticks to a sphere
www.youtube.com/watch?v=owLE8LHSzjY
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CLAIM 2: “Planes do not adjust for Curvature.”
“Planes should have to dip their noses every 5 minutes to equate for earth curvature, but they don’t. ”
Flat Earth Proof 2 – Pilot Principles
www.youtube.com/watch?v=03P-WQ12Nho
REBUTTAL:
This is not technically true because a plane is not flying a straight line so to speak. It’s constantly maintaining adjustments to make sure it stays at cruising altitude. Gravity also plays a part as the plane is traveling in the same atmosphere. A constant altitude must be kept which means a fixed distance to the earth’s center of gravity.
Does a jet aircraft need to constantly adjust nose down to follow the curvature of the earth?
http://www.askcaptainlim.com/flying-the-plane-flying-90/1301-does-a-jet-aircraft-need-to-constantly-adjust-nose-down-to-follow-the-curvature-of-the-earth.html
An airplane’s Inertial Navigation Systems (INS)
“must continually correct for a plane’s tendency to drift off course because of Earth’s rotational acceleration, a consequence of the so-called Coriolis force.”
From *Inertial Navigation And Flight*
http://science.jrank.org/pages/3581/Inertial-Guidance-Inertial-navigation-flight.html
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CLAIM 3: “Physicist tell us the earths curvature is 8 inches per mile squared. It has never been proven and can’t be.”
Flat Earth Proof 3 – Land Ho! (Light House, Sky Lines)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWLOT3Tqi-Q&
REBUTTAL:
For every mile, the curvature drops 8 inches from where you started if you drew a tangent line. It’s not squared.
Visual Line of Sight Calculations dependent on Earth’s Curvature
http://www.davidsenesac.com/Information/line_of_sight.html
“The Earth has a radius of approximately 3965 miles. Using the Pythagorean theorem, that calculates to an average curvature of 7.98 inches per mile or approximately 8 inches per mile. The distance to the horizon in miles from height of an observer is approximately equal to 1.23 times the square root of the height in feet.”
Here is a curve calculator
https://www.metabunk.org/curve/
This is why Lighthouses are built higher up, so that boats/vessels can still see the light and vice versa even if they are miles away.
How far can you see a Lighthouse?
http://www.pajack.com/stories/pitts/viewdistance.html
Flat Earth Debunked by Lighthouse
www.youtube.com/watch?v=680YjmuXxpE
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CLAIM 4: “On Earth, the Horizon will always appear as a perfectly level line.”
“The oceans horizons are flat, there is no elevation difference.”
Flat Earth Proof 4 – The Horizon
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM7vVtBIeCE
REBUTTAL:
False and I will show you how with images of the Horizon. You can clearly see that tall buildings appear below the horizon level. Proving curvature. If you look at any wide angle view of the horizon, you can see this curvature.
These images that Flatters use actually prove there is curvature in the earth. If there was no curve you would be able to see the base of the buildings.
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Flat Earth Debunked by Hilltops
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMKnzaV6cww
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How Boats Vanish Over the Horizon — Big Pier Level
www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPrTMz7a4X8
www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xWsuFLdgBs (Debunker video claiming “Distortion line” is the reason)
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Proving the Earth is not Flat – Part 1 – The Horizon
www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9ksbh88OJs
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Flat Earth CRUSHED by Discovery Channel (Boat Laser)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVa2UmgdTM4
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A video showing the curvature of the earth
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bco_p4V7-QU
Look for yourself. As the man is standing higher up, he can see the building on the island. Then he goes to a lower point and the building disappears. Why? Curvature. There is no other explanation.
The world’s tallest building is so tall… you can grab a lift and watch the sunset twice
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2159142/The-Burj-Khalifa-skyscraper-stands-tall-visitors-watch-sun-set-twice-minute.html#
“But for those lucky enough to be in the Burj Khalifa, the world’s tallest building, it is possible to view the sun setting twice in less than a minute. At least, it is as long as you are in the Dubai skyscraper’s glass lift.”
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Toronto Skyline
Here is a photo of the Toronto Skyline taken from across Lake Ontario in St. Catherines, which is 35 miles away in a straight line. As you can clearly see, because of the curvature of Earth, we cannot see approx 300 feet of the Towers base.
CLAIM 5: “The sun is not 93 million miles away, it is only 3000 miles.”
“The earth is warmer when it’s further from the sun than when it’s closer.”
Flat Earth Proof 5 – Solar Rays
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOgXN8qRUQI
REBUTTAL:
Distance of Earth to the Sun: 92.9 Million miles/ 149.6 million Kms.
Time it takes Earth to rotate around the sun: 365.3 days.
The Earth spins on its own axis every 23 hours 56 minutes at 1040 mph, 1675 km/h or 465 meters per second.
The Earth orbits around the sun at a speed of 67,000 mph / 108,000 km/h and travels 940 million kms during a single orbit.
Flat Earth Debunk Visualization
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uexZbunD7Jg
If the sun was only 3000 miles above Earth, the there would be daylight 24 hours a day on a Flat Earth model.
The Distance To the Sun
http://embracetheball.blogspot.ca/2016/02/the-distance-to-sun.html
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Temperature does not equate with the distance the Earth is to the sun. It has to do with the tilt of the axis. That is why when it’s winter time in the Northern Hemisphere, it’s summer time in the Southern Hemisphere! It’s because of 23.5 degree tilt of the Earth’s axis in orbit. This is why we have seasons. The images below explain it clearly.
“Earth has seasons because our planet’s axis of rotation is tilted at an angle of 23.5 degrees relative to our orbital plane – the plane of Earth’s orbit around the sun. The tilt in the axis of the Earth is called its obliquity by scientists.
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FLIGHT DATA RADAR (SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE)
CLAIM 6 AND 7: “We don’t see any flights on radar from the Southern Hemisphere.”
“No flights fly over the Antarctica.”
“Antarctica is a military zone”
Flat Earth Proof 6 – “Polar” Climates
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzRnFmgOrf8
Flat Earth Proof 7 – Down South
www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX61yQnylgI
REBUTTAL:
As for lack of flights in the Southern Hemisphere, you have to figure in that there is very little land in the Southern Hemisphere compared to the North with a lot less people. Not to mention that the Countries (excluding Australia) in the South are some of the poorest countries in the World to live in. To put it into better perspective the USA has over 15,000 airports, whereas Argentina has only 1,100 and South Africa has less than 600. This is why there is less traffic in the South.
Total Number of Airports by Country
http://chartsbin.com/view/1395
But the main reason why we don’t see flights over the Ocean in the Southern Hemisphere is because there are no radar sites and thus no way to track flights. It would require the aircraft to transmit their location via radio to a ground station, not through radar.
Flight Radar
https://www.flightradar24.com/
Flat Earth Debunked: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere
www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3tKmPuYoBE
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The USG hires 3000 people a year to explore Antarctica.
https://www.usap.gov/jobsAndOpportunities/
“Managed by the National Science Foundation, the USAP deploys roughly 3,000 people to Antarctica every year to conduct scientific research, or provide support to researchers through the operation and maintenance of the research stations and vessels. Inquiring about opportunities depends on your area of interest; however, the majority of employees are hired as support personnel through Leidos , Gana-A ‘Yoo Service Corporation , GHG Corporation , and PAE, Inc”
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TOURISM IN ANTARCTICA (BOOK YOUR FLIGHT OR CRUISE TODAY)
There are even Flights over Antarctica. Flights travel from South Africa to New Zealand by going over Antarctica. On a flat earth, this is impossible. You would fly off the disc of the earth. Yet these flights happen. Explain. Since you claim that no one travels over Antarctica.
https://www.cheapflights.co.za/flights-to-New-Zealand/Cape-Town/
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A380 takes the polar route to Sydney.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQuXdOlZbNE
“The crew takes in spectacular views of Antarctica”
Antarctica tourism and South Pole flights
http://www.adventure-network.com/
Antarctica flights
www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZVFan7jL80
Tours in The Antarctic
http://www.lonelyplanet.com/antarctica/tours
http://www.treehugger.com/corporate-responsibility/tourism-to-antarctica-to-be-finally-restricted.html
“over 45 thousand people visited Antarctica during the recent Argentine summer: it’s a seven times growth in the last 16 years. ” (2009)
Discover Antarctica
http://www.hurtigruten.com/us/explorer-voyages/antarctica/
Antarctica Voyages
http://www.hollandamerica.com/cruise-destinations/grand-south-voyages-cruise
“A complete circumnavigation, from Incan empires to Brazilian beaches, icy Antarctica to the steamy Amazon — all roundtrip from Ft. Lauderdale aboard ms Prinsendam.”
Antarctica flights/Cruises (Book your Flight to Antarctica now!)
http://www.antarcticaflights.com.au/
http://www.cruisecritic.com/articles.cfm?ID=1327
First skiers in Antarctica
http://www.explorersweb.com/polar/news.php?url=south-pole-update_1415554800
Welsh Woman Becomes First Person To Bike To The South Pole
https://www.dogonews.com/2014/1/16/welsh-woman-becomes-first-person-to-bike-to-the-south-pole
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Flat Earth Debunked in 2 Minutes
www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5lHUcZQyLE
Which Route would you take if you wanted to fly on a plane from New Zealand to Argentina?
Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28) From Australia to South America
https://www.metabunk.org/flat-earth-theory-debunked-by-short-flights-qf27-qf28-from-australia-to-south-america.t6483/
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Shipping regularly sails due south, going around the “bottom” of the globe, and comes north again, without making a 180 degree turn. This is impossible on a flat earth, if you look at the map. You can’t be pointing due south and then be pointing north again without making a turn, however gradual, of 180 degrees. Explain.
“The Antarctic Circumpolar Current (ACC) as represented by the Mariano Global Surface Velocity Analysis (MGSVA). The ACC is poorly represented here because of the lack of data. The MGSVA is based on ship-drift estimates of sea surface velocities that are mostly available along major shipping routes.”
http://oceancurrents.rsmas.miami.edu/southern/antarctic-cp.html
Giant Antarctic iceberg ‘could pose hazard to international shipping lanes’, scientists warn
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/giant-antarctic-iceberg-could-pose-hazard-to-shipping-lanes-scientists-warn-8937168.html
“This would take it into the path of one of the world’s busiest international shipping lanes, and trigger hazard warnings via a number of observation agencies.”
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Why don’t flight tracking websites show airplanes over oceans in the southern hemisphere?
https://www.quora.com/Why-dont-flight-tracking-websites-show-airplanes-over-oceans-in-the-southern-hemisphere
(Tom Farrier, Retired US Air Force command pilot; Current aviation safety contractor for the government)
“That’s because flight tracking sites such as FlightAware and FlightRadar24 are displaying radar data via ADS-B receivers. Over vast expanses of ocean—North & South Atlantic and Pacific— there are no radar sites and thus no way to track flights. It would require the aircraft to transmit their location via radio to a ground station, which can be done since they have long range communication or even satellite communications.
GPS, of course, works by reception only; the GPS receiver in the plane receives signals from GPS satellites and calculates its position for display to the pilot. The GPS satellites are clueless about plane’s location. That information would have to be transmitted back through a radio communications system, and usually that information just goes back to the airline headquarters, not ATC.”
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As for the Antarctica “military zone”, that claim is also false. There is no military zone. Quite the opposite.
Antarctic Treaty
https://www.state.gov/t/avc/trty/193967.htm
“Based on the premise that to exclude armaments is easier than to eliminate or control them once they have been introduced, the treaty served as a model, in its approach and even in its specific provisions, for later “non-armament” treaties — the treaties that excluded nuclear weapons from outer space, from Latin America, and from the seabed.”
U.S. Department of State- Open Skies Treaty http://www.state.gov/t/avc/trty/102337.htm
“…is one of the most wide-ranging international efforts to date promoting openness and transparency of military forces and activities. ”
“establishes freedom of scientific investigation and bans military activity on that continent. ” “in the interests of all mankind that Antarctica shall continue forever to be used exclusively for peaceful purposes and shall not become the scene or object of international discord.”
The treaty, entering into force in 1961 and having 53 parties as of 2016, sets aside Antarctica as a scientific preserve, establishes freedom of scientific investigation and bans military activity on that continent. The treaty was the first arms control agreement established during the Cold War.
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CLAIM 8: “Polaris is the center axis, the stars rotate around it, above us.”
Flat Earth Proof 8 – Star Trails
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kG02Wrx9D8
“Why are all the stars the same during different seasons and opposite directions?”
REBUTTAL:
POLARIS
“B2. Polaris. Currently, the earth’s axis points more or less directly at Polaris, the pole star in the northern hemisphere. At the north pole, Polaris is directly overhead. When you travel south, Polaris gets lower and lower to the horizon, until finally it disappears. It does not appear at all above the horizon for most southern observers. Explain.
B3. Constellations. Same as for Polaris. The southern hemisphere has different constellations than the northern. On a flat earth, everybody would see the same constellations all the time. Constellations are also upside down in the southern hemisphere. Orion is standing on his head in Australia. The moon and planets, and the sunspots which are visible, are all “upside down” in the southern hemisphere. On a flat earth, they would look the same everywhere.”
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=64627.0
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How long does it take the Big Dipper to move in the sky? (Intermediate)
http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/about-us/117-the-universe/stars-and-star-clusters/constellations/718-how-long-does-it-take-the-big-dipper-to-move-in-the-sky-intermediate
“In the Northern Hemisphere, all of the stars appear to rotate about a point in the sky that is due north, and at an elevation equal to the latitude at which you’re standing. This also happens to be the point in the sky occupied by the North Star. (The same thing happens in the Southern Hemisphere, but there things rotate about a point in the south.)
This apparent rotation of the sky is actually a result of the fact that the Earth itself is rotating. So the sky does one complete rotation every 24 hours. Of course, you can’t see the stars during the day, but the sky is still “rotating” then nonetheless.”
Let’s take the Big Dipper as an example. For the different times of year, depending on position, the Big Dipper is always visible in the Northern Hemisphere and not always visible in the Southern Hemisphere unless you are north of the 25 degree North Latitude. In contrast, people that live in the South see the “South Cross” and it cannot be seen by anyone North of the 25 degree South Latitude. If the Earth was flat, then everyone would be able to see the Big Dipper and the South Cross at the same time. The fact that we can’t proves the Earth is a sphere.
Here is a diagram to show what the Big Dipper looks like in the sky.
Come to know Big and Little Dippers
Big Dipper Lake Tahoe Star Trails Time Lapse
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujN3J8I5DQI
Skywatching Battle Royale: The Big Dipper vs. the Southern Cross
http://www.space.com/32674-big-dipper-southern-cross-skywatching.html
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CLAIM 9: “How is it possible to see the inner planets at night time?”
Rebuttal:
First of all, the diagram used is a misconception as Venus and Mercury (inside planets ) both orbit the Sun at different rates. Let me show you by example why it is possible to see the inner planets during certain times of the year and certain times of the day.
How can I see Jupiter and Venus in the night sky this weekend?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/08/26/how-can-i-see-jupiter-and-venus-in-the-night-sky-this-weekend/
How do we see Venus in the night sky when the earth is rotating away from the sun and knowing that Venus is closer to the sun than the Earth?
https://www.quora.com/How-do-we-see-Venus-in-the-night-sky-when-the-earth-is-rotating-away-from-the-sun-and-knowing-that-Venus-is-closer-to-the-sun-than-the-Earth
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CLAIM: “The Earth’s curve cannot be seen in space.”
FLAT EARTH ADDICT 05 : 121,000 feet Little Piggy Cam High Altitude Balloon Flight
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQITXbcz2hg&
REBUTTAL:
Oh really?
Pie in the sky! Pastry sent soaring towards space (97,000 Feet)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptn0lZprtiw
Sam the Dog gets sent into Space with a GoPro
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-LE-jJQLTM
“‘Sam the Dog’, the lucky mascot of English Lakes Hotels Resorts & Venues, was launched into space on Tuesday 5 April 2016 via a helium balloon with GPS tracking equipment and cameras.”
INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION
Not only is the Flat Earth but “Flerffers” also claim that Satellites and the (ISS) Space Station are fake.
ISS Hoax – The International Space Station Does Not Exist!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e-RnKAN9qY
“The International Space Station, just like everything else brought to us by NASA, is a Freemasonic hoax, a complete fabrication done with special effects, models, pools, zero G planes, and various camera tricks. The following video exposes key points of evidence for the hoax and breaks down exactly how the illusion is created and maintained.”
QUESTION: “Why don’t we see any Satellites/Stars in the ISS Live cam footage?”
ANSWER:
The International Space Station travels at 17,150 mph (27,600 km/h) and orbits the earth once every 92 minutes. In relation, Satellites travel approximately 8,700 mph (14,000 km/h). The ISS orbits 330 km above the Earth and Satellites orbit at 2,000-36,000 km above Earth. Therefore, the Satellites are out of view and stars are fainted out by the light of the Earth, Sun and Moon.
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“When there is a full moon go outside and see how many stars you can find compared to a night when the moon is not out. You will see the difference. The stars are very faint and get washed out by the bright light of the moon.
The reason why no or very little stars can be seen is because of the Earth. The Earth, when lit by the Sun, is many thousands times brighter than the stars around it. As a result the Earth is so bright that it swamps out most if not all of the stars.
Answered by: David Latchman, B.Sc. Physics, University of the West Indies”
http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae323.cfm
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Here are many images of Stars from the ISS:
www.9bytz.com/the-stars-from-the-international-space-station/
www.nasa.gov/image-feature/stargazing-from-the-international-space-station/
You can Live Stream the ISS here and witness the Curvature yourself.
https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/iss_ustream.html
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-iss-stream
http://www.n2yo.com/space-station/
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Satellites
“About 6,600 satellites have been launched. The latest estimates are that 3,600 remain in orbit.[2] Of those, about 1,000 are operational;[3][4] the rest have lived out their useful lives and are part of the space debris. Approximately 500 operational satellites are in low-Earth orbit, 50 are in medium-Earth orbit (at 20,000 km), and the rest are in geostationary orbit (at 36,000 km).[5]”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Space_Station
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ISS
The ISS is maintained in a nearly circular orbit with a minimum mean altitude of 330 km (205 mi) and a maximum of 410 km (255 mi)
“The ISS maintains an orbit with an altitude of between 330 and 435 km (205 and 270 mi) by means of reboost manoeuvres using the engines of the Zvezda module or visiting spacecraft. It completes 15.54 orbits per day.[16]”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite
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Proving the Earth is not Flat – Part 2 – The Stars
www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGZEXkSX9wI
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CLAIM: “Ships being able to lock onto targets 100 miles away proves there’s no horizon curve.”
REBUTTAL:
The Earth’s curvature is considered when launching long range missiles from land or sea.
INS for Guided Missile Systems
http://techdigest.jhuapl.edu/TD/td2804/Bezick.pdf
Pg 2 “Moreover,the desired navigation solution typically is formed relative to a second, *rotating Earth-centered* Earth-fixed (ECEF) coordinate frame, (ie, je, ke), having angular velocity ie, relative to the inertial frame. If the position vector of the missile, r, over the Earth’s surface is desired (latitude, longitude, and altitude), then a model for the ellipsoidal shape of the Earth’s surface must be used.”
Nat Geo Encyclopedia on Coriolis
“Military aircraft and missile-control technology must calculate the *Coriolis effect* for similar reasons. The target of an air raid could be missed entirely, and innocent people and civilian structures could be damaged.” http://education.nationalgeographic.com/education/encyclopedia/coriolis-effect/?ar_a=1
From Principles of Guided Missiles and Nuclear Weapons
“The CORIOLIS FORCE must also be compensated for. It is *caused by the earth’s rotation,* and tends to deflect a missile to the right in the northern hemisphere, and to the left in the southern hemisphere.”
“The amount of deviation produced by the *coriolis force* depends on the latitude, length, and direction of the missile flight.”http://archive.hnsa.org/doc/missile/index.htm
“Lucky you, I’m in the navy and operate a program called the Tactical Acquisition Weapons Software and I can confirm, yes curvature is indeed a part of it.”
Operational assessment of Target Acquisitions Weapons Software (TAWS) prediction performance at Nellis AFB, NV
http://calhoun.nps.edu/handle/10945/2884
Demonstrating how Coriolis effects bullet drop at 1000 yards
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX7dcl_ERNs
“Jeremy Winters demonstrates how Coriolis effects bullet drop by shooting 1000 yards to the west and 1000 yards to the east and comparing the results.”
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CLAIM “Gravity is not real.”
“Gravity was not proven, and Isaac Newton and Einstein, all those scientists, are also Freemasons and Satan worshipers,” Patrice said.”
https://mic.com/articles/150833/flat-earth-theories-truthers-youtube#
REBUTTAL:
Gravity is not a conspiracy theory and was discovered in the 1600’s by Sir Isaac Newton.
Newton’s Laws of Motion
https://kendoc911.wordpress.com/911-comparisons/newtons-laws-of-motion/
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CLAIM: “Giant Ice wall surrounding Flat Earth that holds in the water.”
THE FLAT EARTH ICE WALL EXPLAINED – WITH PHOTOS
www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgit6h60IUw
REBUTTAL:
There is no photographic evidence that this “ice wall” even exists. If so, Flerfers would have shown these images and noted them on a map so that people could check it out for themselves.
THE MOON
Claim: “Moon light is cooler than sunlight, therefore the Earth is flat.”
REBUTTAL:
Flat Earth theorist claim because we can see the moon and the sun together in the sky on some days, then the Earth must be Flat. Let me explain further.
Why Do We See the Moon in Daylight?
http://www.space.com/7267-moon-daylight.html
You do realize that the sun reflects off the moon. This is why it lights up. There are also different lunar phases, which is why we see a 1/4 moon, 1/2 moon or a full moon on different times of the month. Sometimes we don’t even see the moon because it’s directly in front of the sun and the earth. This is evidence of a Spherical Earth.
The phases of the Moon
http://www.suntrek.org/earth-beyond/our-moon/phases-of-the-moon.shtml
“The appearance of the Moon in the sky changes from day to day. These changing shapes are called the Moon’s phases.”
Synchronous Rotation of the Moon
www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZIB_leg75Q
“The moon orbits the Earth once every 27.322 days. It also takes approximately 27 days for the moon to rotate once on its axis. As a result, the moon does not seem to be spinning but appears to observers from Earth to be keeping almost perfectly still. Scientists call this synchronous rotation.”
Here is a simple demonstration using a golf ball:
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Guy Uses Camera to Zoom in on Moon
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRxlTKr0FU4
Also note that people living in the Northern Hemisphere will see the Moon differently than people living in the Southern Hemisphere. People living in the south will see the moon’s face upside down, so to speak.
Not to mention if the Earth was flat, we would always see the moon and the sun at the same time 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.
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Proving the Earth is not Flat – Part 3 – The Moon
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTBaOmJEQg0
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NASA AND MARS
CLAIM: “No real pictures of earth. Admitted by NASA itself as composites.”
Why Are There No Real Photos of The Complete Earth?
Why Are There No Real Photos of The Complete Earth? = NASA has never been into space far enough from the Earth to get the whole planet in the frame
Flat Earthers even think NASA space stations, satellites orbiting the Earth and photo’s of Mars are all fake.
REBUTTAL
Flat Earthers claim that NASA has been covering up Flat Earth since their creation in the late 50’s and that all their images, satellites, Space Stations are all fake. But let me say that Earth has been here for 4.5 Billion years and Aristotle discovered a Spherical Earth in 300 B.C. But if you want to believe that NASA has been covering it up for the last 60 years, then I can’t help you.
Conspiracy Debunked: NASA Photoshops Images for Good Reason
http://www.space.com/9337-conspiracy-debunked-nasa-photoshops-images-good-reason.html
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“BLUE MARBLE”
The Blue Marble
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blue_Marble
Debunked: “Blue Marble” Photos show a Changing Earth
https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-blue-marble-photos-show-a-changing-earth.t6616/
Let me show you why the land mass looks larger on certain images. As you can see in the three images below. The same globe is the same size but the land mass looks larger the closer you get and vice versa.
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MARS PHOTOSHOP
Flerffers will typically use photoshopped images to try and prove their point. I guess it’s ok when they do it but not NASA.
Watch how the above photo was shopped.
www.indavideo.hu/video/NASA_Training_Session_-_Mars_Photography_Workshop_101_Required_Course
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Flat Earth Conspiracy 100% Debunked (Without Citing NASA) – CASE CLOSED
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmGRRxOf6dU
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CIRCUMNAVIGATE THE EARTH
There have been many pilots that have circumnavigated the Earth in a plane. They all started in one spot, flew one direction and ended up where they started. How is this possible on a Flat Earth model?
Flying Around the World in a Solar Powered Plane
https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2016/07/flying-around-the-world-in-a-solar-powered-plane/493085/
“The journey took a very long time—505 days to fly 26,000 miles (42,000 km) at an average speed of about 45 mph (70 kph)—but pilots Bertrand Piccard and Andre Borschberg successfully landed the Solar Impulse 2 aircraft in Abu Dhabi on Tuesday, after flying around the world using only the power of the Sun.”
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Wiley Post flies solo around the world
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/wiley-post-flies-solo-around-the-world
“American aviator Wiley Post returns to Floyd Bennett Field in New York, having flown solo around the world in 7 days, 18 hours, and 49 minutes. He was the first aviator to accomplish the feat.
Post, instantly recognizable by the patch he wore over one eye, began the journey on July 15, flying nonstop to Berlin. After a brief rest, he flew on to the Soviet Union, where he made several stops before returning to North America, with stops in Alaska, Canada, and finally a triumphant landing at his starting point in New York.”
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“The Rutan Model 76 Voyager was the first aircraft to fly around the world without stopping or refueling. It was piloted by Dick Rutan and Jeana Yeager. The flight took off from Edwards Air Force Base’s 15,000 foot (4,600 m) runway in the Mojave Desert on December 14, 1986, and ended 9 days, 3 minutes and 44 seconds later on December 23, setting a flight endurance record. The aircraft flew westerly 26,366 statute miles (42,432 km; the FAI accredited distance is 40,212 km)[1] at an average altitude of 11,000 feet (3,350 m).”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutan_Voyager
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“Lucky Lady II is a United States Air Force Boeing B-50 Superfortress that became the first airplane to circle the world nonstop. Its 1949 journey, assisted by in-flight refueling, lasted 94 hours and 1 minute. The plane later suffered an accident, and today only the fuselage is preserved. (Lucky Lady II was also the name of a B-17 of the 338th Bomb Squadron, which was shot down near Tielrode, Belgium (Temse), on 30 July 1943.)”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucky_Lady_II
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This Plane Will Take You Anywhere In The World In 4 Hours
http://www.iflscience.com/technology/plane-will-take-you-anywhere-world-4-hours/
“The new system that the firm is working on is called SABRE, which is a jet engine that also doubles as a rocket engine. In a commercial plane, this could whizz 300 passengers around the world at Mach 5, or five times the speed of sound, “pretty easily,” according to chief engineer Alan Bond. The ambitious spaceplane the company is working on, “SKYLON,” could propel the craft into orbit at 25 times the speed of sound.”
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OTHER
Saudi cleric becomes online laughing stock after telling student the sun rotates around the Earth as otherwise planes would not be able to fly
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2957414/Saudi-cleric-online-laughing-stock-telling-student-sun-rotates-Earth-planes-not-able-fly.html
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KYRIE IRVING
Kyrie Irving says the Earth is undeniably flat: ‘This is not even a conspiracy theory’
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/kyrie-irving-says-the-earth-is-undeniably-flat-this-is-not-even-a-conspiracy-theory/
Cavs’ Kyrie Irving on ‘Earth is flat’ comments: ‘I know the science’
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18710759/kyrie-irving-cleveland-cavaliers-believes-earth-flat?sf57147933
“”This is not even a conspiracy theory,” Irving told Jefferson and Frye while recording the podcast on an airplane. “The Earth is flat. The Earth is flat. … It’s right in front of our faces. I’m telling you, it’s right in front of our faces. They lie to us.””
Wall post:
www.facebook.com/ken.docii/posts/952365928231254
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So, apparently Shaquille O’Neal is a flat-Earther, too
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/so-apparently-shaquille-oneal-is-a-flat-earther-too-035813782.html
““It’s true. The Earth is flat. The Earth is flat. Yes, it is. Listen, there are three ways to manipulate the mind — what you read, what you see and what you hear. In school, first thing they teach us is, ‘Oh, Columbus discovered America,’ but when he got there, there were some fair-skinned people with the long hair smoking on the peace pipes. So, what does that tell you? Columbus didn’t discover America. So, listen, I drive from coast to coast, and this s*** is flat to me. I’m just saying. I drive from Florida to California all the time, and it’s flat to me. I do not go up and down at a 360-degree angle, and all that stuff about gravity, have you looked outside Atlanta lately and seen all these buildings? You mean to tell me that China is under us? China is under us? It’s not. The world is flat.””
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FLERF MEMES
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QUESTIONS FOR FLAT EARTHERS
1) If the Earth is flat, then where is the edge of the Earth? Take me there.
2) If the Earth is Flat, explain why we see a Geometrical Sunrise and sunset?
3) If the Earth is flat, then why is it Daytime in the United States when it is Night time in China? Why do we have Time Zones?
4) If the Earth is flat, does that mean the Moon is flat too?
5) If the Earth is flat, then why do boats and ships appear beneath the sea from miles away?
6) If the Earth is flat, then why do all the images from Space show a spherical Earth?
7) If the Earth is flat, how would you fly in a plane from New Zealand to Chile?
8) If the Earth is Flat, why is it Summer in the Northern Hemisphere and Winter in the Southern Hemisphere?
9) If the earth is flat, then where is the Sun in accordance to Earth?
10) If the Earth is flat, then how do you track GPS coordinates?
11) If the Earth is Flat, then why have there been many pilots that have circumnavigated the Earth?
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POLL
POLL: The Earth is flat. True or False?
As you may be aware, there have been many attempts to lump 9/11 Truth in with fringe conspiracy theories, such as government cover-up of UFOs/ETs, the Moon landing hoax, Big Foot, Birthers, and most recently the flat Earth theory.
So as a research project, I am doing a poll to see how many members in the 9/11 Truth Movement group believe in the flat Earth theory.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2204686781/10153806648306782/
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CONCLUSION: DISINFO
The Flat Earth theory is a hoax theory that lacks scientific argument. There is more than enough proof to prove that Earth is indeed spherical. The Flat Earth campaign looks to be a Govt psyop being used to trick people and to lump them into a the “conspiracy theorist” strawman. Galileo, Aristotle and Sir Isaac Newton are rolling in their graves right about now.
The Flat Earth theory is a Psyop created by TPTB in order to discredit legitimate movements!
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